Blog /The Vancouver Folk Fest 2008

July 20, 2008 04:21 +0000  |  Politics Self Reflection Socialism 5

Notes on Pacifism (2008-07-19 21:21:00)

I've discovered that I'm incensed by pacifists. They approach the concept of violence with such dismissive superiority, like it's some kind of old idea who's day has come and gone. As if somehow, if a few of us were to decide not to commit an act of violence, the rest of the world will somehow agree to follow suit.

What foolishness is this?

No intelligent person would argue that violence can solve everything, but similarly, no rational person can argue that every problem can be solved without it.

Some conflicts not only call for violence, but outright require it. In fact, I would submit that anyone who would advocate non-violent resistance for all conflicts is just as naive as those who think that every problem is solveable at the barrel of a gun.

In Summary (2008-07-20 13:21:00)

Strolling trough this park has been like walking through my memory. At every turn, I'm reminded of a happy moment, but strangely enough, the memory isn't very specific. In other words, I remember a peace and happiness associated with being here, but for the life of me, I can't determine the source. In fact, my feelings toward the festival presently are quite the opposite to what they were before I left for Ontario back in 2001.

In a way, it's as if my politics have changed, while those of the festival haven't, and somehow we both seem to think that we're still on the same "side".

We both want:

  • Peace
  • A healthy planet
  • Equality
  • Affordable housing

But our definitions of these ideals, not to mention the forms in which we'd like to see these things take place differ considerably:

The concensus here for dealing with homelessness seems to be substantial rent controls and treating heroin addiction and alcoholism like a disease. I just can't follow that line of reasoning. Where they see thousands out of work, I see a labour shortage and where they see a need for legislative rent controls, I see acres of underdeveloped land that could be cultivated to drive down the cost of living through competition. We need to increase density and improve sustainability while developing a scavenger class for the emerging market of reusable containers. Ideas like these are met with considerable opposition here.

There's a focus on pacifism, like it's some sort of magic panacea, and there's also a kind of reverence for panhandlers and bums (their term). As if vagrants are living some kind of idealised life. I never used to bat an eye at comments like these, but now they grate against my skin and I'm not convinced that this is a bad thing.

For so many of the people here, things like working and bathing are optional, and there are children everywhere. Screaming, oozing children, the blistering sun and rap music! -- I've not been in a happy place all day.

It's important to note that I don't condemn this lifestyle, far from it. Some of the happiest people I know live and breathe this kind of life. I support their choice and right to this life but... I just don't think that it's the kind of life I want anymore. At one time, yes, but not anymore.

Comments

Robin
23 Jul 2008, 4:16 p.m.  | 

A good number of the people at folk festivals just want to get high and listen to music - and when you're high it's damn near impossible to engage in violence of any kind. :)

Is it fair to tar all the attendees with the same brush, though? While I'm sure the uber-hippie quotient was quite high, were they all ultra-left-wing slobs who would sooner be stabbed to death than fight back? Or near-homeless damn-the-man layabouts? Then again, you could just be referring more to the organizations with "booth presence" there. Its been a few years since I attended the Folk Festival though, so perhaps my memory of it has been skewed as well.

Like you, however, I find it difficult get behind most if not all extreme viewpoints these days. The world is less black and white and more shades of grey, and I find the more realistic people I've met tend to live with allowance for, let's be honest, "hypocritical flex room" :) . It's possible to be a peace actvist who celebrates Rememberance Day, an enviromentalist who drives to work, and a carnivorous animal-lover. Nothing new here of course, but it seems easier for most of us to hold to quixotic worldviews when we're younger.

In your case, I wouldn't confuse your being socially conscious with requiring to identify with every vegan pacifist stoner you meet. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't consider yourselves more or less on the same "side".

As far as folk music goes though, I think we can all agree that Enya fucking sucks.

Lara
23 Jul 2008, 4:58 p.m.  | 

Argh, those kind of pacifists. I have a friend who is a pacifist and really enjoys telling people this. For instance, I might say to him "ARGH I want to stab my landlords!", and he'll reply "Really? I've never wanted to stab anyone. I'm a pacifist." This of course makes me angry (he's implying he's superior because of some MEANINGLESS frustrated comment I make), and then my annoyance with him for this is of course further indication of my VIOLENT NATURE, which he doesn't have (because he's a pacifist, don't you know). I think people who talk about their being pacifsts in such a smug manner should actually be termed "pacifist agressivists". :P

Daniel
23 Jul 2008, 7:02 p.m.  | 

Maybe I should clarify that my observations above about the attitude at the festival is meant as a generalisation for the festival itself and not so much the attendees (though obviously a majority of them agree with these positions).

The booths were almost all centred along the aforementioned lines and the artists themselves would speak on stage in support of these arguments. I also had a few conversations with some of the attendees who held the same positions.

Melanie
23 Jul 2008, 8:54 p.m.  | 

I'm confused. If the problem they see and the problem you see actually turn out to be solutions to each other, isn't this a good thing? Why aren't you working together?

Daniel
23 Jul 2008, 9:05 p.m.  | 

I guess I'd use an analogy of trying to push a boulder uphill. Person A might be pushing it up by hand or using a machine, while Person B might sit down and pray for "god" to push the boulder for him.

The people share the same goal, but disagree with the effectiveness of the other's methods.

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