Blog /Like It Or Not, The Green Party Is Now Legit.

September 02, 2008 18:09 +0000  |  Canada Environment Green Party Politics 14

For those who haven't yet heard, Canada's Green Party is now an official parliamentary party. Blair Wilson, the MP for West Vancouver has defected from the Federal Liberal party to the Green Party of Canada. This move pretty much solidifies the Green Party's right to enter the debates for the upcoming election, and believe me when I tell you that Elizabeth May will rip the other four to shreds.

This election is likely to be a lot more fun than I initially expected.


3 Sep 2008, 4:56 p.m.  | 

Whether or not I'd vote Green, I'm hoping their presence in the debates forces the other parties to come up with more serious environmental platforms.

They're also my favourite party to watch during election coverage .. they're always like "WOOOOO! THERE'S A CHANCE WE MIGHT COME IN SECOND IN ONE RIDING OMG OMG!".

I'm not sure how I feel about MPs being able to switch parties while they're in office though, given the fact that so many people vote based on the party the candidate is a member of. Tricky.

3 Sep 2008, 5:35 p.m.  | 

I don't like that either. In fact, I'm not far from the riding where one guy (Emmerson) campaigned as a Liberal and notoriously switched his allegiance to the Conservatives days after he was elected.

This case is a little different though. He switched only days before the election was called -- about as honourable as he could be really without losing the ability to solidify the Greens as a legitimate party before the race began.

But yeah, I agree. The Liberals and Conservatives have been really loose with their "trades" in the past few years. Makes you wonder if there really is much of a difference between the two.

4 Sep 2008, 3:42 p.m.  | 

Elizabeth May's an interesting person -- I'm curious about the debates too.

4 Sep 2008, 6:44 p.m.  | 

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The offer really was too good to be true!

5 Sep 2008, 8:27 p.m.  | 

Elizabeth May is kind of a jerk.

5 Sep 2008, 10:03 p.m.  | 

Oh come on, what makes you say that? Call her vicious if you like I won't deny that, but "kind of a jerk"? What's that supposed to mean?

6 Sep 2008, 6:22 p.m.  | 

I did a bit of research on this the other day.

Apparently this Blair Wilson guy was actually kicked out of the Liberal party for trying to cover up legal and financial troubles during nomination vetting processes (ie. illegally ommission), and was not allowed back in. He then sat as an independent for a year before joining the Green Party. Which is a little different than just jumping ship straight out .. but probably not much more comforting. :P

Elizabeth May is also not running for Prime Minister in the upcoming election because she has an agreement with Dion. Isn't the electoral debate supposed to be for candidates actually running for Prime Minister (whether or not they have a shot notwithstanding)? How would this grant them a spot in the debate? While I would like to see them up on the podium, I'm not sure this actually will guarantee them anything. I'm also not convinced that May would attempt to rip Dion to shreds given their current deal. It all seems a bit sketchy to me.

6 Sep 2008, 6:23 p.m.  | 

Er, I meant to say "illegal omisson". I R SMRT.

7 Sep 2008, 8:31 a.m.  | 

I think that either you know something I don't, or you've missed something on the May-Dion deal. Basically, they agreed to not run candidates in the ridings of each other's leader, ie. the Greens won't run against the Liberals in Dion's riding, and the Liberals won't run against the Greens in May's riding. Last I heard, she was still running for a seat in Central Nova, and if she takes it, she'll be the leader of the Green party with a seat in the House. If then, on the slim chance that the Greens hold the largest stake in the House, she'll be Prime Minister. It's not a position for which you run, but a question of numbers.

As for how this would have an effect on whether they should be allowed to appear in the televised debates, the logic goes like this:

  • For every election since the inception of the Green party, they've been denied access to the debates:
  • First because they weren't running candidates across the country
    • The Bloc Quebecquois have never run seats outside of Quebec
    • They rectified this in the following election
  • Then because they didn't have enough of the popular vote
    • In the following election, they got 4.5%, 2.5 points more than required
  • Then because they didn't have any sitting MPs
    • Now they have Wilson

May has already gone on record saying that the party will sue if they don't get access to the debates this round. I wouldn't be surprised if she followed through with that.

7 Sep 2008, 11:27 a.m.  | 

Can you remind me when the debates are on? I am hoping that i can watch them online or download a podcast or something...

8 Sep 2008, 12:46 a.m.  | 

Sure. I'll try to email you or at the very least, post it here.

9 Sep 2008, 1:29 a.m.  | 

Daniel, Thanks for clarifying how the parliamentary democracy works in Canada-Yikes...On the most improbable chance of ever winning enough seats to form a 'Government" Liz would be one Mean ass leader. I was disappointed to hear that they ( with the exception of the Liberals)Parties would not include her in the debates....even NDP Leader Jack L. dosent endorse that move because the "Vert" will rob them of some "rich" votes and free air-play on National TV....quite the sham........pity

16 Sep 2008, 6:47 p.m.  | 

is "kind of a jerk" too ambiguous?

from what I hear from people who have met her at political luncheons and meetings, she is loud and pushy and talks over people. She has a reputation for interrupting and not listening to opposing opinions. To me that makes her kind of a jerk.

again, this is just what I hear from people who deal with her on a semi-regular basis. I've never met her personally, which is why I soften my critique with the "kind of".

16 Sep 2008, 7:23 p.m.  | 

Ah, I see what you mean. Having never met her personally and only seen her in debate, I suppose I can see that. I guess that what some of the people to whom you've spoken see as "jerk-ness" I see as confidence and self-righteousness. Some of my favourite qualities in politicians whose principles I admire.

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